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Joanna
Torstaina, 18. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 20.21:   
Tämä liittyy jotenkin Pretoryyn, eli Thendic-Francen emoyhtiöön (ja sitäkautta tääläkin keskultuihin palkkasaataviin joita syntyi rahoituksen katkettua).. Babelfish-käännös ei selitä minulle mikä on idea/yhteys... Ilmeisesti kuitenkin jotain varsin erikoista tapahtui vuosi/pari sitten.

leparisien.com

linkki otetty tästä jutusta MZ:ssä

 

Jupp3
Torstaina, 18. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 22.09:   
http://world.altavista.com käännetty versio:
DERRIERE the WALLS out of concrete, in a basement of Levallois-Perret (the Top-of-Seine), plus nothing does not let guess l'existence d'une room of prayer. The Iqra mosque closed after l'intervention of the murder squad, which suspected a group salafist d'en of having taken financial and ideological control. This investigation highlighted also, for the first time, l'envoi French combatants in Irak.Selon the investigators, two French identified in Iraq - Redouane El Hakim and Abdelhakim Badjoudj - were in liaison with certain members of this radical group. This mosque, according to the police force, would have hidden a "center of recruitment". L'enquête starts in June by l interpellation d'une ten suspects. During the four days of police custody, the police officers take down an unhoped-for index: by exploiting the listings of the portable of Toufik T, data processing specialist and vice-president will d'Iqra, they discover a coming SMS earlier d'Irak, sent a few days: "Salam Alykum (...). Relays ke I am well, N O only keeps you (...). If G 1 Pb here, C you kon apelera." Of the training courses with Dubaï the investigators are convinced that l expeditor, based in Iraq, "carries out the jihad" and that Toufik T acts as "correspondent" in France. In the SMS, three first names are quoted, of which that of l expeditor, Grégory G, 27 years, whose profile intrigues the police officers. Former president of l association Iqra, this French converted with l'islam was manager d'une undertaken safety, sub-contracting Pretory company. The latter, specialized in the monitoring d'installations on l'aéroport Roissy-Charles-of-Gaulle, took down many markets after the attacks of September 11, 2001. After a tax control in the company of Grégory G, the investigators would have discovered documentation with character islamist and traces of paramilitary training courses in Dubaï. Militant islamist or professional of safety? Grégory G, which we contacted, ensures to have carried out a mission d'un month in Iraq with a associate: "This history is ridiculous. When learned j'ai arrests in France, j'ai called police officers. I am not related to any die d'envoi jihadists. I do not know Redouane El Hakim. The training courses with Dubaï were carried out to approach the customers in the Gulf. C'était declared in prefecture. Documentation islamist in question, c'était Coran! "Mistaken of the police officers? "L'accumulation of coincidences is not enough to show people", underlines Grégory G

 

hooligan/dcs
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 6.43:   
Juppe

Kiitos, on paljon selvempi nyt

/sarcasm :)

 

Jon
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 8.37:   
Joo, tuosta lopusta vain puuttuu:

"and I was very, very, drunken" ;)

 

Frn
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 10.20:   
Tuosta käännöksestä saa suunnilleen sen käsityksen, että Thendicin tyypit suunnittelivat WTC-iskut ja että Saddamin kadonneet joukkotuhoaseet ovat kätkettynä jonkun moskeijan kellarissa. Ainakin jotain sinne päin. :)

 

KimmoK
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 15.34:   
Hei ... jätkät ... AmigaInc:n talouden kaatoi WTC terrori iskut ... jos McEweniä on uskominen ... siis ... :O


1 + 1 == YEEEHAW !

 

mkl
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 16.25:   
NATO:n Anti-Terrorism Unit tulee pikapuoliin iskemään Amigistien koteihin. Linkki terrorismin ja Amigan välillä on kenelle tahansa järkevälle yhtä selvä kuin linkki Al-Qaidan ja Saddam Husseinin Irakin välillä!

 

antime
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 20.28:   
Eli Pretoryn entistä manageria epäillään yhteydestä radikaali-islamisteihin. Väitetty yhteys löytyi kun tutkittiin Pretoryn verohuijausta. BBRV vättävät että he henk.koht. löysivät ja raportoivat asian.

 

itix
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 22.38:   
Enpä tiedä mutta en pistäisi pahakseni jos alqaidalaiset suuntaisivat seuraavat pomminsa amigan ja genesin päämajoihin. Mitä pikemmin molemmat on pommitettu maan tasalle sen parempi.

 

JPQ
Perjantaina, 19. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 23.20:   
itix: varo sanojasi joku voi tietää missä asut (minä en vielä tiedä joten olet minun osalta turvassa)...:)

 

Janne
Sunnuntaina, 21. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 11.55:   
Ranskan hallitus myös BBRV:lle hiljattain korkean kunniamerkin.
Ei liene mahdotonta että asia liittyy tämän Pretory-skandaalin
paljastamiseen.

 

Janne
Sunnuntaina, 21. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 12.26:   
bbrv: "We think between the trouble that has been caused by the
corruption of MorphOS.net and this article that appeared today
in France this community should finally begin to understand
what we went through and why there were so may problems.
You will now begin to understand what happened with Pretory
and consequently Thendic-France if you have followed the story.
This is not some cloak and dagger novel, this is a true story and
we lived it. We discovered a connection to terrorism in Pretory.
Through a sub-contractor this led to money-laundering, drug
trafficking and mercenary activity. We discovered the active
involvement of officials in the French Government and we filed
the report in June (referenced below) that began to expose the
situation. We left France because we were told from officials in
the Matignon that our safety could not be assured. It had
nothing to do with all the other speculation generated in the
French Presse or on other websites. When we were at SNDF
Europe Jon Swain the author of the book, The River of Time,
which became the movie, The Killing Fields, came to see us. Will
he write a book about this? We are not sure yet. Paul Webster of
the Guardian had started one, but he died in March 2004 of a
sudden heart attack.

Here is the article that appeared in France:

LeParisien

Can you see why the attention was diverted? Can you understand
the implications? We built up a solid Company with a good
reputation. BDO, our Auditors, did not see the problems, but
when we found them we investigated and one revelation led to
the next and so on.

As for the whole morphos.net episode, this may or may not kill
MorphOS as a desktop system. We will do our best to insure
there is a 1.5 release. Sadly, this situation has proven to our
bigger partners why open source, unless a development is
tightly controlled, is a better approach in some respects and
have for the moment eliminated MorphOS from our strategic
partnership discussions.

Very sincerely,
Raquel and Bill"

 

Janne
Sunnuntaina, 21. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 12.27:   
bbrv: "Yes, TreeBeard. BTW, it is our personal money we are
spending and not any one else's. We have no venture investors
besides ourselves. We fund the Pegasos production, pay the
salaries we can, and sell and market MorphOS and the Pegasos
in any way we can with our money and resources. Please keep
that in mind.

There are many people who have worked very hard under very
difficult conditions to get this far. We all share the same dream
and with the support of a strong community we still think we
can make it.

R&B

[ Edited by bbrv on 2004/11/18 17:38 ]"

 

Janne
Sunnuntaina, 21. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 12.32:   
bbrv: "TreeBeard, (edited on the counsel of Mikko )

We have made things very clear. It is our ambition to settle
everything from the past that is a valid claim and move ahead to
the future in a positive manner.

R&B

[ Edited by bbrv on 2004/11/18 19:45 ]"

"Tetuzo, these things have all been documented in the French
Press. This latest story is just another step in a series of
progressively revealing information about Pretory and the overall
situation. The VSD article is July was another example. We would
be happy to email this article to you (or anyone else). Our
statements about the situation here and on other boards are
accurate and as complete as they can be while the investigation
continues.

To be clear, MorphOS is owned by the shareholders of bplan/
Genesi. The components included in the current distribution are
either owned or licensed by Genesi/bplan. The release is
currently locked and fully paid for through the July 2003 release.
Developers that have released third party applications own the
respective developments.

Genesi/bplan has passed through a difficult period, but it has
not "died" and this option is currently not in consideration. What
is under consideration is whether or not we continue to develop
core features of MorphOS beyond the July 2003 release. We have
established terms with Stefan Stuntz. We have not with David
Gerber. We will not conclude an agreement with Stefan at this
moment if we do not have a desktop. Further, if we do not have
a target date for a 1.5 release then it does not make sense to
make these license payments.

For the record, we have no intention of paying David Gerber for
anything unless he re-joins the effort. We have made this clear
to him, before and now.

In the meanwhile, MorphOS will be ported to other hardware
targeted at the embedded market. We have potential customers
interested in a MorphOS solution for this market.

Those are the facts.

May we ask who you are and what your true purpose is here?

R&B"

"MagicM, we are sure you do not understand. We pay David for a
license to his work. If we do not use his work we do not pay the
license. Can you see the difference?"

"Alex and Bob, unfortunately we will have to answer your posts
in a more detailed manner later. We are headed to a very
important meeting and finishing the proposal.

David broke with us. We did not break with him.

More later...(sorry)

R&B"

"AP, Try this instead: deliver something and get paid for it. Don't
deliver it and don't get paid. We still promise him to pay him if
he delivers something. Do you think what is on morphos.net is
the way to get it? What about the payments we have made? What
about the overall situation? This is becoming a crazy discussion.
David knew what the situation was. He understood the time
table.

R&B"

 

hooligan/dcs
Sunnuntaina, 21. marraskuuta, 2004 - klo 12.54:   
"Further, if we do not have a target date for a 1.5 release then it does not make sense to make these license payments."

Piiiiitkästä aikaa olen samoilla linjoilla bbrv:n kanssa.

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